Episode 56 with Robert Jordan
Right Leader, Right Time
Featuring Robert Jordan | Tales of Leadership Podcast Ep. 56
Leadership is not a one-size-fits-all model—it is a dynamic journey shaped by timing, context, and self-awareness. In this episode, Joshua McMillion sits down with Robert Jordan, CEO of Interim Execs and co-author of Right Leader, Right Time, to explore how understanding your leadership style can unlock greater performance for both individuals and organizations.
Robert’s journey as an entrepreneur and leadership expert highlights a critical truth: leadership begins the moment you have responsibility for another person. Through years of working with thousands of executives across the globe, he identified a key challenge—many leaders struggle not because they lack ability, but because they are trying to be everything to everyone. The most effective leaders, however, understand their unique strengths and operate within them.
A central theme of the conversation is the importance of mentorship. Robert shares how pivotal moments and mentors shaped his path, reinforcing that growth often accelerates when we learn from those ahead of us. Rather than reinventing the wheel, great leaders build upon the experiences of others, shortening their learning curve and expanding their perspective.
The discussion also introduces four distinct leadership styles—Fixer, Artist, Builder, and Strategist—each representing a different way leaders create value. Fixers thrive in chaos, running toward problems and restoring stability. Artists see the world as a blank canvas, driving innovation and challenging the status quo. Builders focus on scaling organizations to dominance, aligning people, process, and product for sustained growth. Strategists operate at the highest level, navigating complexity, aligning systems, and leading large organizations toward long-term success.
Understanding these styles is not about labeling yourself—it is about recognizing where you are most effective and where you need support from others. Leadership is not about mastering every role, but about aligning your strengths with the mission and surrounding yourself with individuals who complement your weaknesses.
Another powerful takeaway is the concept that language creates reality. The words we use shape our beliefs, our beliefs drive our actions, and our actions ultimately define our legacy. Leaders who are intentional with their language can inspire, align, and create momentum within their teams.
Throughout the episode, one message stands out—leadership is about authenticity and alignment. When leaders embrace who they are, reject what is not for their highest and best use, and empower others to do the same, they create organizations that thrive.
Final Thoughts
Robert Jordan’s insights remind us that leadership is not about trying to be everything—it is about becoming the best version of who you are. The most effective leaders understand their strengths, align their actions with their purpose, and surround themselves with people who elevate the team. Purposeful Accountable Leaders recognize that success is not achieved alone; it is built through collaboration, mentorship, and intentional growth. When you lead with clarity, confidence, and authenticity, you don’t just perform—you create lasting impact.
After Action Review (AAR)
Are you trying to be everything to everyone, or are you focusing on your highest and best use as a leader?
Who are the mentors or individuals in your life helping you grow—and how are you learning from them?
How are you using your words and communication to shape the culture and reality of your team?
Tales of Leadership Mission: To develop Purposeful Accountable Leaders (PAL) by arming you with the tools
required to lead with purpose, integrity, and accountability.
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